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Post  ac3.. Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:49 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNqNYY-Ihv4


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Post  ac3.. Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:38 am

For those who are interested. Never mess with The People. The revolution has began.

France :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNK-9Jn8Tus

Germany :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VwVLdesork
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPiZkpCVL50&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbRwY1ywISI

Sweden :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGR5YqMUY8s&feature=related

Czech Rep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TFBf5Q_pIU&feature=related

Slovakia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Diy5isPaXI&feature=related

Hungary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtz7Q3MfH6Y&feature=related

Holland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcVQPSImpUU

Belgium:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaIwsH75Z1M

Austria:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsvhUSfddjM

Romania :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OWGzMLDfMY

Bulgaria:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y59XxJoStA

Lithuania :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG9WJxFtfU4&feature=related

Estonia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx8Zby2XR98

Ireland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiO1WK638IM

England:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tku4eHgsPyQ

Slovenia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV-AemnHVag



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Post  master_jeebus Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:50 pm

actually spend the last wekend in helsinki and stopped by to participate in the stop acta demonstration on saturday =)

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Post  |DH|R4ndom. Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:00 pm

master_jeebus wrote:actually spend the last wekend in helsinki and stopped by to participate in the stop acta demonstration on saturday =)


Jeebus, our own protest hero. Yes Sir! Yes Sir! Yes Sir! Sniper
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Post  ac3.. Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:28 am

Good work jeebus. The EU project is tranforming into the modern version of USSR. In the end it might be one world government and no nation states. Just look at the Hungary, they are already bullied in Europe because they decided to change their constitution their way and whats the most important - they put tax on international corporations.

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Post  master_jeebus Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:06 am

with acta i´m most worried about articles:

27.1: forces ISP´s to cooperate with copyright holders, bypassing normal law and the right to a fair trial in removing or blocking alledgedly infringing content... meaning that, for example, this site could be taken down just because some1 would have linked to a video that perhaps isn´t legal. problem here is they don´t need to even check if that´s the case, it´s enough that copyright holders SAYS that´s the case... gsus.

27.4: right-holders will be allowed to obtain private data regarding the users of the internet from the IPS´s without a decision made by a judge.. meaning if i would claim i have the rights to some video, i can connect my ISP and tell them to give out information about, for example, an IP-number. not hard at all to get the info about what, for example, internet pages six is surfing on every day or what he does on the internet in a whole.. gsus.

27.28: enforcement of "means of widespread distribution purposes"... meaning it could be interpreted in a way that criminalizes bloggs, P2P networks and free software (just to name a few examples).. gsus..

check the links posted above for more info. all in all (and believe me, this is the oracle speaking=) ACTA reeeaaalllly SUX!
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Post  master_jeebus Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:28 am

|DH|R4ndom. wrote:
master_jeebus wrote:actually spend the last wekend in helsinki and stopped by to participate in the stop acta demonstration on saturday =)


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my answer got so off topic that i edited it away =) will post another post about democracy and all that is wrong with it another time =)
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Post  |DH|R4ndom. Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:30 am

master_jeebus wrote:
|DH|R4ndom. wrote:
master_jeebus wrote:actually spend the last wekend in helsinki and stopped by to participate in the stop acta demonstration on saturday =)


Jeebus, our own protest hero. Yes Sir! Yes Sir! Yes Sir! Sniper

my answer got so off topic that i edited it away =) will post another post about democracy and all that is wrong with it another time =)

seems like you spend some time studying laws, as I just read your previous post. quite interesting to see that you're into that.

and yes, ACTA does suck. stoopid americans FUUUUUUU
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Post  Christina_Cox Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:52 pm

ACTA was already not approved in Bulgaria, Holland, Germany, Polland, Cezch Republic and Slovenia.

Also my Government, along with Hungary and Belgium are currently reconsidering it.

More news the following days probably.
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Post  pol4ris Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:15 pm

Christina_Cox wrote:ACTA was already not approved in Bulgaria, Holland, Germany, Polland, Cezch Republic and Slovenia.

Also my Government, along with Hungary and Belgium are currently reconsidering it.

More news the following days probably.

Slovakia too
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Post  ac3.. Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:13 am

master_jeebus wrote:with acta i´m most worried about articles:

27.1: forces ISP´s to cooperate with copyright holders, bypassing normal law and the right to a fair trial in removing or blocking alledgedly infringing content... meaning that, for example, this site could be taken down just because some1 would have linked to a video that perhaps isn´t legal. problem here is they don´t need to even check if that´s the case, it´s enough that copyright holders SAYS that´s the case... gsus.

27.4: right-holders will be allowed to obtain private data regarding the users of the internet from the IPS´s without a decision made by a judge.. meaning if i would claim i have the rights to some video, i can connect my ISP and tell them to give out information about, for example, an IP-number. not hard at all to get the info about what, for example, internet pages six is surfing on every day or what he does on the internet in a whole.. gsus.

27.28: enforcement of "means of widespread distribution purposes"... meaning it could be interpreted in a way that criminalizes bloggs, P2P networks and free software (just to name a few examples).. gsus..

check the links posted above for more info. all in all (and believe me, this is the oracle speaking=) ACTA reeeaaalllly SUX!


Very true. Point 27.4 means mass invigilation of the people. Do not forget though that the game isn't only for our web rights but also it will be present in all aspects of our life, for example medicines. According to this agreement cheaper generic medicines , which actually save life may be forbidden.

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Post  ac3.. Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:23 am

Christina_Cox wrote:ACTA was already not approved in Bulgaria, Holland, Germany, Polland, Cezch Republic and Slovenia.

Also my Government, along with Hungary and Belgium are currently reconsidering it.

More news the following days probably.


ACTA is already signed by the 22 EU states. Just Cyprus, Estonia and Slovakia didn't sign. Germany and Holland only postponed and they will put a mark on the paper in the nearest future. The point is that this trade agreement must be ratified by all 27 countries . Next step is the European Parliament and the ratificastion must be done over there also.

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Post  master_jeebus Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:29 am

ac3.. wrote:Very true. Point 27.4 means mass invigilation of the people. Do not forget though that the game isn't only for our web rights but also it will be present in all aspects of our life, for example medicines. According to this agreement cheaper generic medicines , which actually save life may be forbidden.

yes. the medicins are affected cuz many poor (and not so poor) countries rely on being able to copy a drug and sell it under another name much cheaper. this will not be possible if acta becomes reality = lives lost. this is one of the key points why, for example, doctor´s without borders is against acta. when talking about acta i usually stick to the internet rights cuz they are the ones affecting me most, but there are plenty of other stuff that acta fux up than internet rights, that´s true.
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Post  |DH|R4ndom. Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:16 am

i find this sooo interesting to read lol. more fun than reading the newspaper Smile

go on guys Embarassed
i might learn something about the world here xD
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Post  Christina_Cox Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:34 pm

http://www.techspot.com/news/47472-bulgaria-and-the-netherlands-withdraw-support-for-acta.html
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Post  ac3.. Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:34 am

Christina, the author of the text you linked knows something but he isn't sure if he knows for sure Very Happy
Signing and ratification are two different things. Look at the first and the one before last paragraph Wink

http://www.neurope.eu/article/bulgaria-halts-acta-ratification

http://www.loc.gov/lawweb/servlet/lloc_news?disp3_l205402976_text

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Post  Christina_Cox Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:51 am

I didn't read it fully. I just posted the link here because I saw some people are actually interested in the topic.
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